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Chinese sub fleet now outnumbers USN sub fleet

Reuters via Yahoo NewsChina submarines outnumber U.S. fleet: U.S. admiralWASHINGTON (Reuters) - China is building some "fairly amazing submarines" and now has more diesel- and nuclear-powered vessels...

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A more realistic assessment of the PLA-N sub fleet?DiplomatWhy China's Submarine Force Still Lags BehindWhy the People’s Liberation Army Navy’s underwater fleet still lags behind those of other...

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Why is it always US great China good? What has the US done to deserve this? http://www.aspistrategist.org.au/does-the-us-know-what-its-doing-in-the-south-china-sea/

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Because the US is on the side of the Angels, just ask them. And they have the money and military power, to say so.

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As far as I know PRC has surpassed the noise levels of Victor III, not Victor I as some may believe. So, in general, they certainly got to the level of the 3rd submarine's generation (Sierra, Akula,...

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If you can find it, you can sink it. But during a surge in the opening stages of a conflict, that may not matter.

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I also don't think any of us knows the level of quieting that any Navy has reached. As to 'Why is it always US great China good? What has the US done to deserve this?', when it comes to naval...

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skipper101 wrote:We all need to built more and better subs our selves. Right now, the SSN building rate is probably too low (and it has been for at least 15 years). Ramping up to about 2.75 SSN/year...

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Related:DiplomatGame Changers? Chinese Submarines in the Indian OceanThe presence of Chinese submarines in India’s strategic “backyard” requires a more effective response from India.If media reports...

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Send attack boats on goodwill missions into the South China Sea. And start accumulating ASW assets.

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And perhaps contract Japan for a couple of those Helicopter Destroyer's. Of course India could do much better if they were not tied to buying all that Russian Crap, and started perhaps licence...

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I am sure JS.Izumo is there already for shake down since the waters down at SCS is rich in shadows. LoL

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skipper101 wrote:And perhaps contract Japan for a couple of those Helicopter Destroyer's. Of course India could do much better if they were not tied to buying all that Russian Crap, and started...

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Most of it. Mainly because it decades old not particularly well designed, built or maintained, but mainly because it is older than I am. Though I will make one exception they do look good, like real...

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Could you please be specific? I mean broad generalisation style bashing is not really helpfull.

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Well I'll volunteer that Russian aircraft maintenance to client states, India specifically, has always been quite second rate to just about anyone else, I'd wager even the Chinese. The original...

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What specific issues India has with Flankers that are Russia specific (ie to avoid blaming Indian failures on Russia - such as the Kilo battery fire)? The carrier was Indians getting greedy and...

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I'll agree that the Indians outsmarted themselves. It may also be their fault that they didn't get an independent experienced mechanic to go and kick the tires. But they should have gotten a clear...

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ikalugin wrote:What specific issues India has with Flankers that are Russia specific (ie to avoid blaming Indian failures on Russia - such as the Kilo battery fire)?Well, I suppose you could say India...

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Are those repair parts for Russian made planes or for India assembled ones? If it is former, then forcing them to buy spares from Russia makes better sense, especially if Russia is responsible for...

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As I said before, the repair parts for the Indian-assembled aircraft are required by the contracts to be purchased from Russia even though the same parts are built in India to supply the production...

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